BELUG: Supporting Linux and open source for 21 years.

The next BELUG meeting is Tuesday, May 13th at 6:30pm.

The in-person location is at the North Bellevue Community Center:

North Bellevue Community Center 4063 148th Ave NE Bellevue, WA. 98007

Please come early to help set up the room.

Kevin will be hosting this meeting. Thank you Kevin.

The meeting will follow our usual format with introductions all around, collecting technical questions to answer later, then any presentations, and finishing with our best answers to your technical questions.

In April we discussed:

LinuxfestNW 2025

Alternate OS's:

• AcreetionSO
• ReactOS
• OS/2
• Haiku OS
• SerenityOS
• Plan 9
• Red Star OS

I did a demo of yunohost and a bit on bash command line editing

The AI generated transcript from the meeting is below:

We cover a wide range of topics and I hope you can attend our next meeting.

Meeting Summary for BELUG Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2025 03:20:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Meeting Summary with AI Companion

Meeting summary for BELUG (04/09/2025) Quick recap Steve discussed his interactions with Katie, his efforts to switch to Alpine Linux, and his interest in learning more about minor differences between shells. He also shared his knowledge on various command-line techniques and tools, focusing on Vi mode in Bash and the Ed text editor. The group also discussed alternative operating systems, Jerry's recent port surgery and his need to update his operating system and browser, and Steve's progress on a home Internet server project using YunoHost. Next steps

• Jerry to visit Bill to update his Netbook's operating system and browser.
• Randy to continue exploring and testing Accretion OS and React OS as potential Windows alternatives.
• Steve to continue working on the home Internet server project using YunoHost.
• Steve to further investigate and potentially implement AI tools for the home server, particularly exploring open-source options like Open WebUI.
• Steve to continue working on replacing the nouveau drivers with NVIDIA drivers for his GPU setup.

Summary Steve's Shell and Alpine Linux Steve discussed his recent interactions with a woman named Katie, who was pursuing a scholarship in car hacking despite her background in biology. Steve also mentioned his efforts to switch to Alpine Linux for his server, which he found useful for its small size and compatibility. The team also discussed the differences between various shells, with Steve sharing his experience with Fish and Csh. The conversation ended with Steve expressing his interest in learning more about the minor differences between shells. Vi Mode in Bash and Ed Steve discusses various command-line techniques and tools, focusing on Vi mode in Bash and the Ed text editor. He explains how to use Vi commands in Bash by starting with the escape key, which puts the user in command mode. Steve demonstrates how to use the 'V' command to open the current command in a full Vi editor. He also covers the Ed editor, showing basic commands and explaining its historical significance. Steve touches on sed and awk, mentioning their origins in Ed and their usefulness for text processing. Throughout the discussion, Steve provides practical examples and tips for efficient command-line usage, including history commands and the readline library. Jerry's Linux Upgrade and Home Network Jerry reports that he recently had port surgery and was not mobile for a while. He is currently using a netbook running Debian 7.8 32-bit, which is no longer supported, and needs to update his operating system and browser. Jerry plans to visit Bill to get help installing a new OS on his netbook. He also mentions having other computers at home running different Linux distributions. Jerry discusses setting up a smart TV with his Linux desktop and creating a guest network for visitors at home. The group briefly talks about protecting old Windows machines, with some suggestions about using firewalls and proxies, but no definitive solutions are reached. Alternative Operating Systems Discussed The group discusses various alternative operating systems, including Accretion OS, ReactOS, OS/2, and Haiku. Randy mentions Accretion OS, a new Arch-based Linux distribution designed to be an alternative to Windows 10 and 11. They also discuss ReactOS, which aims to be compatible with Windows NT applications and drivers. Randy suggests that ReactOS might be a good option for users who need to run Windows on old hardware. The conversation touches on other historical operating systems like OS/2 and Plan 9, as well as the history of Unix and related lawsuits. Randy still recommends Linux Mint for users transitioning from Windows to Linux. YunoHost Home Internet Server Demo Steve demonstrates his progress on a home Internet server project using YunoHost, a web-based application platform. He shows the user interface, which includes features like user management, application installation, and system diagnostics. Steve highlights the ease of use and the ability to restrict access to specific users. He also discusses domain management, explaining how he uses Cloudflare for domain registration and DNS services. The conversation touches on various technical aspects such as port accessibility, email configuration, and system backups. Steve mentions his interest in running AI tools locally and briefly discusses using Proxmox for virtualization. The meeting concludes with a brief mention of AI coding tools and Steve's efforts to set up an Nvidia GPU for AI tasks. AI-generated content may be inaccurate or misleading. Always check for accuracy. Best, Zoom

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